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  • michelle said on October 24, 2012
    i live in the united kingdom my husband is wanting to start up a company with around 4 Trucks but is wanting to hire them out but unfortunately we dont understand fully what it entails we have around 150.000 thousand to start with could anyone give us any advice mainly on how to get contracts off potential clients we live in yorkshire any advice would be appreciated and can email me on michelles004@aol.com thank you
  • Dennis Tavano said on November 6, 2012
    Hello,i'm Dennis form Italy i'm 31Y.O. and since 1998 i'm in truking business in Italy. Now i'd like to start up a new experience for expand my knowledge with my own company in US as Solo trucker initially and maybe in the future grow up the business ! :D My doubts are on the real beginning : who contact, where to go to, bureaucracy. There's anyone can help me making my dream come true!! Thanks everyone
  • Rohan said on November 7, 2012
    Hello...I am 23 yrs old from NJ. I am working as truck dispatcher for last 2 years and have good knowledge of 48 states dispatch and also i have good knowledge about compliance and making invoices, etc. I am planning to start my own trucking company with 2 trucks and i will manage entire operations for them and will hire 2 drivers. So i just want to ask you that how much investment do i need and which state is good for trucking business...I worked in Atlanta, GA too as dispatcher. So from GA, MI and NJ which one is good? Also what are the options to buy 2 trucks to minimize my investment. I will use factoring company, So that i don't need to wait for 30 days for payment from brokers. Thanks! Rohan.
  • Ranee Rodriguez said on November 13, 2012
    hi we live in freeport il. we are starting are own truck company. my husband has been driving for twenty years. he is gonna drive and i will find him loads and do all the paper work. but i have ran into a snag we need a commercial contract, and a application on file but i cant find the two of them. i have looked and talked to the people at staples but they could not help me. do you have any ideas where i can get them two documents. thank you Ranee Rodriguez
  • dale henry said on November 21, 2012
    I live in greenville sc, 29611. I have over 20yrs. experience as a truck driver. I need to know the fast and easy way to lease and own a day cab or 24ft.box truck to start my business. I need to do everything.
  • macha said on November 25, 2012
    I am truck owner, i have question about paper work, i have to apply by self IFTA online or department of transport.. sent to me paper on mail???
  • kazim said on December 1, 2012
    Hi, I just got my mc# and want to buy truck and trailer can some one help me to start and improve my trucking business.
  • REUBEN said on December 9, 2012
    Hi, i want to start a transportation company am based in zambia. i have a 7.4tonne flat and 15tonne container trucks. kabwa ,zambia.
  • Tusco said on December 11, 2012
    Hi I would like to know how can I start a trucking business. I am located in Mpumalanga (Witbank) who can I contact for advise.Thanx.
  • Dawn said on December 13, 2012
    Dreamweaver Trucking and Heavy Haul LLC. We are in search of investors that can help start the business again. 30 yrs. experience. We have everything in place to start except equipment and insurance. Everything else is ready to go. Have all paperwork and even brokers ready to load us. Have good relationships with brokers and have already got the factoring paperwork in for our first load. Have drivers ready to come aboard and drive for us. We would love to find someone to help us get that last boost we need. Thanks for any info.
  • Kartick Bhakat. said on December 14, 2012
    Hi, i am kartick from India. i have pure knowledge in transportation business. but i'm financially not well. so i want a business partner who can help me. and we establish a well transport company in India. my contact no is 0988-373-2846.
  • obed malapane said on December 29, 2012
    i'm located in south africa, i would like to start a business in the trucking industry and want to get a subcontract with mining companies preferably around witbank, gauteng and rustenburg. i'm currently employed and i don't own a truck yet but can buy it
  • D Mash said on January 2, 2013
    I am currently in Dallas TX USA and have $20000 to invest in a trucking business. I need helping in knowing what my next steps should be? I'm looking to invest in someone's existing business with the intention of sharing the profits.
  • mpendulo Ngobese said on January 12, 2013
    hey am from South Africa (KZN) I have R22000 in my account I want to start a truck business. I need 10 tones truck Please help me how can start this business.
  • Siza said on January 17, 2013
    Port Elizabeth I have Capital for starting a Business but I want to know where u go about contracts and where to start before buying the truck please help.
  • amelia makara said on January 19, 2013
    I have secured a contract to transport coal within south africa but need grant to buy at least 2 trucks, I need assistance in buying the trucks, can anybody assist?
  • SIBONGISENI WALTER MNYANDU said on January 21, 2013
    I am residing in Nongoma, Nothern KZN in South Africa. I want to enter into trucking business. Please help me on how to take my business forward. Regards, S.W. Mnyandu
  • Tyrone said on January 28, 2013
    I'm seeking capital to purchase a New Truck and Trailer for the new California laws, I’m Not a Started-Up Company. I am a very hard working individual that is just asking for one good break. I have over 18 yrs driving experience and run a successful operation. I am offering a 10% return on investor money, that’s how serious I am. The breakdown on equipment costs, Avg. Tractor price I'm looking at is under $45,000, A reefer trailer $30,000 I have all permits and insurance Truck averaging $1.80 to $2.00 per mile revenue to the truck. I will drive 2800 to 3200 miles a week. TRUCKINGRUS INC Lake Elsinore, CA
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  • Shimane Moipone said on February 13, 2013
    Hi.. my name is shimane Moipone in Botswana. I have a company known as MOIPS ENTERPRISES PTY LTD registerd in 2012. I am one of the people who are well experienced but i wanted to be a businessman and leave working anymore. I am highly experienced in the fields of Sales & Marketing, Administration and Human Resources management from both government and private sectors. My experiences is coupled with Diploma in Human Resources management, Business management, IT and Hospitality management. I know trucking business is a good business even in Botswana, there is mining sectors for coal , diamond and ash. So, i need any interested party who can join me so that we can start the business. I can manage the business well. Than You
  • Andy said on February 23, 2013
    Hi i'm a 20 years old student originally from Limpopo bt currently in Johannesburg, my dream is to see my self owning a truck business and i want to start it as soon as possible, but my main problem is capital. anyone to monitor me in this business n help me financially pls contact me@0733844031.
  • norma villahermosa said on February 26, 2013
    hi. i want to start a trucking business but dont know how to start can you help in detailed. specially some document in purchasing truck. thanks and more power norma on 2/27/2013 cebu city philippines
  • Go get it said on March 3, 2013
    I would like to be a owner operator of a truck, can someone tell me where to start.
  • obakeng said on March 6, 2013
    I am based in Hammanskraal , Pretoria I need a business plan to help me get a Grant to buy Trucks , I would like also , to get available contracts for 34 ton tucks in south Africa
  • Goolam said on March 7, 2013
    I am in Johannesburg, South Africa, looking to buy a 34 ton tipper truck and trailer and secure a mining contract. Can anyone assist please?
  • Andy said on March 7, 2013
    hi, i want to start a truck business, anyone to help me financially which is also a great investment call me @0733844031
  • Ed P said on March 13, 2013
    Hello If any one is interested in partnering up in Boston MA I am owner of a warehousing distribution and transportation company. We handle imports exports domestic shipping world wide. Please if interested you must have capital or good credit score we can obtain funding to handle new projects with Home Depot and Harvard UNV . Please feel free to contact me. Thanks, Ed P eperry@onelinklogistics.com
  • michael freeman jr said on March 18, 2013
    U.S.A. Houston TX i wanting to start my own trucking company starting with my one truck and trailer and i am thinking about leasing on to C.H. Robinson in Eden Prairie MN and i want to know what is the best way i am getting my authority and all the stuff i need to start from OOIDA but is it better to lease on or go out on my own this my everything. I do have a company name and i do have a business plan
  • draft transport said on March 23, 2013
    Draft transport is based in south africa johanesbug. the company was registered in 2006 and we are looking 4 truck contract to Lubumbashi kazungula kasumbalesa maputo swaziland lesotho local an long distance in south africa
  • Andy said on March 27, 2013
    my name is Andy, a 20 years SA citizen, as my dream is to see my self oneday owning trucks, i would like to inform the NON-SOUTH AFRICAN citizens that due to a number of mines here in SA, there are a plenty of opportunities for truck owners to kip their business running, soso if u want to invest in SA and your problem is the paper work that u have to fill-in and sign as a foreign citizen, i would be happy to help u, u invest in SA through me. if u are interested only non-SA citizens call me@0733844031 or makgwalenaisy@gmail.com
  • Thabile Zama said on March 28, 2013
    Durban, South Africa. I am interested in starting a company(truck business) but my problem is; I am not getting enough information about creating this CK registration number thing my suppliers request that I should have. I am 21 years of age. Please help me out!!! 078 779 5090
  • Andy said on April 2, 2013
    Hi,my name is Andy. i'm a South African citizen. i'm very much interested in starting my own truck business whereby i will rent them to needy companies, so my main problem is capital as i'm still 20 years old. even though i'm still in the process of seeking for funds, i'm very much committed and determined in this business. so i would like to plead with those who offer loans or even those willing to help me financially that please come on board and help me. through my determination i've made research and found that about R400 000 will be sufficient to start the business. please never mind my age as this is business and i assure u that depending on the type of contract, the amount mentioned above can be repayed in 10 months or less. this is also a great investment. please those willing to help me and also willing to monitor me contact me @0733844031 or pleasureselepe@gmail.com
  • Latheesh said on April 9, 2013
    we based Dubai, Alquos. we are in to Logistics business. we do LTL services to GCC and FTL to GCC mainly in to OIL fields and other sectors. Basically we started in Kuwait, Dubai we started 2 years before now we are in the growing stage, so we are looking how I can generate more genuine inquiries?.
  • Y.ABRAHAMS said on April 13, 2013
    I have a business plan worked out. Just need contracts. With it I will be able to get trucks for which ever application and amount of trucks needed. I can just alt the numbers. BUT I NEED CONTRACTS. Contact me at younis.abrahams@gmail.com
  • KARUNA KARAN.T.K said on April 15, 2013
    India, Tamil nadu, coimbatore. I have an Mahendra maxximo mini goods van. we have to transport fruit & any goods delivery every where in tamil nadu & karela. Waiting favorable call or mail mobile :08973784723. Thanks by Karuna karan
  • s.govender said on April 21, 2013
    Hi, I'm 23 years old & have been driving trucks from 18. I want to start a trucking business hauling container &/or break bulk on the DBN-JHB route with a international eagle or scania. any help guys?
  • ipyana s mwakalinga said on April 24, 2013
    one agent at TANZANIA PORTS AUTHORITY needs to establish tracking company but capital is not enough so i need corporation and new ideas for this programs
  • Yaseen Allee said on April 24, 2013
    Hi, we have 18 fuel tankers and 6 coal side tippers based in Boksburg Johannesburg South Africa, we are looking for direct contracts to move fuel and coal. Cell number 0795011276. Thank you.
  • Tabish said on April 25, 2013
    I am from Toronto, Ontario, Canada. I am planning to start a new business and for that I chosen to go for Long and short haul trucking. I am planning to buy 5 straight and 5 tractor trailers. My question is how much is required if I want to buy new trucks on lease and how much space I need and were. How am I going to get drivers for them plus how am I going to get regular business so that my trucks are busy.
  • Duane Vock said on May 8, 2013
    Hi there, another one from South Africa. I am looking to buy a 6 Cube Tipper Truck. Could one make enough money running to and from clients with a truck of this size, or would it be worth buying in the 10Cube instead? Also we are in the Stellenbosch area, are there any business willing to contract out to me as a small independent company starting out. d_vock@hotmail.com thanks
  • mondli mabaso said on May 10, 2013
    hi, i just want someone who can work with me i have contract for timber and sugarcane call me at 0714127901
  • Johannes Mkhwanazi said on May 15, 2013
    I am residing at Heilbron in the Free State Province of South Africa. I am applying for funding of at least 2 x 34 ton Side Tipper Trucks for my company. May you kindly assist me with the said process and the relevant supplier.
  • Charity said on May 22, 2013
    I want to start a truck transportation company in South Africa, it will be based in Pretoria. I need help in how to go about doing that. I am a young 21 year old woman. Your advice will be appreciated.
  • Johannes Mkhwanazi said on May 27, 2013
    I am residing in South Africa and am struggling to secure a direct contract and funding for 2 x 34 ton Side Tipper Trucks for my company. I am interested in the transportation of the following mining commodities: coal, manganese, chrome and iron-ores. May you please, help me to secure funding and a contract from any mines in South Africa. My company is Kgoale Logistics (Pty) Ltd.
  • Abhishek khatri said on May 30, 2013
    Want to know how to start trucking business in India.
  • AbednigoVusimuziNkosi said on May 31, 2013
    Hi I'd like to start a trucking business i'm in pretoria gauteng province in south Africa I'm empty little experience but can handle pressure I tried courier business still finances were not coming through so now if put my hope to you thanks there are so many contracts for 34 tonnes in the mines and other sectors but can't access trucks a little finance we can penetrate the industry thanks again Godbless you.
  • Michael Sithole said on June 17, 2013
    Hi my name is Michael Sithole and I want to start my own truck business I would like to get help on where or how can I get a contract for truck. Because I've tried to get a truck but many companies that I've asked for finance they say they want to see a contract can someone help me to get a direct contract. My contact is 0847997413/0833687611 or email @ pammytmazibuko@gmail.com
  • Anmol Batra said on July 6, 2013
    Hi want to start trucking and container business. Help me out
  • Don said on July 16, 2013
    i am currently saving money to start a trucking company in south africa, i need advise on how i can get contracts.
  • Johannes Mkhwanazi said on July 22, 2013
    I have registered a transport company for which I need a bankable contract to buy a fleet of trucks. I live in South Africa. I am struggling to secure funding at the moment. Cell: 082 344 7179
  • melusi said on July 25, 2013
    I'm from south africa kwazulu natal and I'm interested in staring a trucking business I don't know where to start I need an advice I'm 25years old working for aircondition company plz help me I don't know what to do
  • Brock said on July 29, 2013
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  • Max said on July 31, 2013
    i want to(buy a truck head) start running a logistic /truck /transportation company and I would like to know which existing companies are available and can offer me job
  • Morris Tony Senthufe said on August 3, 2013
    I have a company called Senthufe's Kompone(PTY)Ltd here in Botswana. But i have no funds to start a business. I have all required documents to operate any type of business here. Feel free to help me or to join me run the company. I really dont have funds, so we can join hands and find funds. PLEASE CONTACT
  • ZhouTaisekwa said on August 5, 2013
    I am looking for contracts for transport for I am into trucking business, I would prefer loads with return trips if outside Zimbabwe. please email taisekwazhou@gmail.com 0733616929
  • Laz said on August 10, 2013
    I live in Phoenix Arizona; my concern is what's the best choice when starting a trucking business: a sole proprietorship or an LLC, and why...I deeply appreciate your help...
  • Villa Mogoerane said on August 11, 2013
    Hi... I want to start a business in trucking. I want to transport coal here in Mpumalanga. Can you advise me on how to start it cause I don't money to buy trucks. Tell me more about Coal transport franchise.
  • Thaya Solution said on August 19, 2013
    Hi, I am having 1 and 3 ton lorry. Currently i am looking for a contract. pls call me at 0123804854.
  • stacy said on August 22, 2013
    i've been thinking about buying a boxtruck and starting my own business, but i have 2 duis from when i was younger. how hard will it be for me to get insurance? my last dui was 15 years ago. or would i be better off putting the business in my wifes name and just drive for her?
  • job said on August 23, 2013
    hi I wish to humbly request for fund from your organization to start TRUCK transport service in Bungoma KENYA. I would like to acquire a Truck for $20,000 dollars. I want to buy a used Truck in nairobi. PLEASE ASSISTANCE GET IT. I HAVE NO MONEY. I am disabled Kenya man. I am unemployed. I am a christian.
  • Sipho Lucky Shabangu said on August 29, 2013
    Thinking of starting a Truck Transportation business. Do not know where to begin. Transporting steel from companies in Nigel. I reside in Duduza.Please help.
  • Godfrey said on August 30, 2013
    My Name is Godfrey Sathekge i am working as a Sales Executive, i am selling new and use Truck, Cars and Bakkie. we do deliver the whole South Africa. we got sale on Trucks and Bakkie if you are on the Market please Contact me on 078 447 9610 and My Direct number is 011 326 1511
  • mehluli said on September 19, 2013
    how do I start a trucking business in zimbabwe?
  • CHIJIOKE OBICHI BENEDICT said on September 25, 2013
    Am from Nigeria and fully into truck transportation, but i only have a truck, i really need someone to partner with, because this is a very lucrative business in my country with good management. My contact is +2347030352412.
  • Nkosinathi said on October 3, 2013
    Greetings! This is Nkosinathi Myaka (27 yrs old)from Durban whom is looking to establish logistic entity. Problem is the job. I'm currently having a capital which can cover a 1 horse and trail truck (Freightliner cargo. Contact Details are: Cell 0739812465/0729073306 or 0317076000. regards Nkosinathi Myaka
  • Naresh Raju said on October 8, 2013
    We are planning to start a company in Bangalore, India. For the transportation service company. That is From city A to City B. We are looking for a investor who can support us for starting the project.
  • mashaba md said on October 11, 2013
    how to have a truck contract in south African mine
  • HESTER KOTZE said on October 11, 2013
    Hi i have been operating as a broker and only making a percentage out of the money but i have a lot of snags all the contracts are direct and on my company's name and the big problem is u spend money on another persons truck and then he gets a better deal and pulls out i want to own my own trucks to put in but don't have big enough capital for the banks to finance me 4 truck owners pulled out in one week and i am loosing my contracts one by one. I know the trucks will be able to pay themselves I just don't have the sources to make it happen can u help. I am situated in Springs Gauteng south africa
  • Aman said on October 15, 2013
    Hi, I am in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Can someone tell me what are the best and most profitable lanes to run in Canada and the US?
  • sakthiravi said on October 20, 2013
    sir i am indian i am heavy driver i have indian license. i am interested to put on my own truck business anywhere in gulf. anybody can sponsored a visa to me please send your advice
  • Tich said on October 21, 2013
    looking forward to starting a trucking business, mentorship will muchly appreciated
  • Guillermo T said on October 22, 2013
    I own 3 Bobtails and 12 53'tralilers. I am interested in starting an LTL business, or full load is this a good idea how can bee and where to get customers. I don't want to work with a brokers, want to get my own customers help me please
  • Bandile said on October 24, 2013
    Hi Bizz Hub, How can i get funding to buy trucks since lending entity from government and private sector won't fund me without a contract and even mining or clients won't give me contracts inorder to get funding please help i'm from South africa.
  • Danny Baloyi said on October 24, 2013
    Greetings my nameis Danny Baloyi... I would like to get a start up guide info on how to invest and grow in truck businesses...
  • Janette Olivier said on November 1, 2013
    I am a truck owner of one truck. I would like to become a broker at the mines. Could I get more information as to how to do that and who to contact. Other brokers seem to be very hush hush about it and you get no information. Would really appreciate it.
  • Round Gudlanga said on November 4, 2013
    I have access to twenty 30 Tonne Trucks (Freightliners) with trailers. I live in Harare, Zimbabwe. I would information on how to get contracts to move cargo from Johannesburg, Durban and Beira to Zimbabwe, Zambia and Malawi.If l can possibly have the contacts of bulk cargo movers into this part of Africa. Thank you so much
  • saeel said on November 5, 2013
    I want to started my carriar as a transport feild in maharashtra , mumbaiso how can I start my own business "what is the co5st of d truck n how to earn money so gve advise for all details , wht need in case thnk u from saeel:)
  • sthembiso said on November 12, 2013
    I want start truck business i'm seriously starting with one truck what would be pit-falls to watch for, and what is the life spend of success in this industry
  • Reabetswe said on November 15, 2013
    I am interested in starting the couriers/truck business with my business partner , where would i get direct /sub contracts for 1ton -34ton trucks. Thank you.
  • Rabi said on November 15, 2013
    Looking for truck/couriers business where can i get direct contracts, my email add is reabetswe.mogale@gmail.com,thank you.
  • kalpesh patil said on November 19, 2013
    I am looking to start trucking business in India. Can you please let me know how much investment does it need to start trucking business. and what are the strategies to get in to such industry.
  • Mamaja Sello said on November 19, 2013
    Sir/Madam, I'm Mamaja Sello from Greywood (Pty) Ltd, I want to venture into trucking. Please advice on how best to start? how do I get contracts? should I purchase vehicles before getting contracts? Thanks.
  • DAVID E. BANDA said on November 24, 2013
    Hello, I have direct loads to transport coal and cement I Zambia. anyone with 34 ton trailers and/or side ripper trailers can contact me for joint-venture agreements; write to email; davideladbanda@yahoo.com OR tel +260965423570
  • Rajeswara rao gondi said on November 30, 2013
    PLEASE ADVISE HOW TO GET GOOD BUSINESS FOR RUNNING OF MY TWO NOS OF TIPPERS AND MAINTENANCE OF VEHICLES AT Visakhapatnam port city. Andhra Pradesh State INDIA
  • Rohit Kumar said on December 30, 2013
    Hi Dear. I want to start trucking business in Manitoba, Canada. I am Indian Citizen and applied for Canada PR and i am coming there to exploratory visit in the month of February, 2014. Please guide me how can i start my own business there. Thx Rohit
  • ALEXANDER said on January 4, 2014
    just bought a 15 tonne truck and willing to go into trucking business, how do i start up.
  • Rajkamal Singh said on January 10, 2014
    I want to operate from eastern up & neighboring bihar. Buxar, bihar
  • Duka said on January 13, 2014
    I would like to start a trucking business with one truck first so can you advise me on the following:
    1)How do I start it?
    2)How do i get financed?
    3) How do i secure contracts that can make profit?
    4)How much money is needed to start this business?
    I am South African residing in South Africa in Cape Town. I won't be driving the truck myself.
  • phiwa said on January 24, 2014
    Hi .I am from msinga Kwazulu Natal i like to start my own trucking company .So my concern is anyone can help me about where to start .I need a capital, contract also please good i need this opportunity desperately contact me on 0728386562 if you willing to help thanks
  • jagan raj k said on February 6, 2014
    i'm having 5 trucks with me .its conditions were good in use. my idea is to make use of truck into business around the domestic areas. i kindly need your idea about how to implement my resources to make it as business. i'm waiting for yours best response .thank you
  • Eric mokoena said on February 12, 2014
    Hi, I'm from Johannesburg . i want to start my own trucking business u don't have money to start the business I have two year contract would you please assist me.j0731606778
  • Themba said on February 12, 2014
    Hi my Name is Themba Mlangeni I'm a young aspiring Buisnessman I have a telecommunications business and have always wanted to venture into trucking I have a business plan already my only problem is securing finance and getting a trustworthy contract I would like some advice on how to go on about of getting a contract and securing finance? anyone willing to help mlangenithemba2@gmail.com
  • raul gallardo said on February 14, 2014
    I am so interested in begin a truck business please contact me and help me. Denver colorado
  • Greig James said on February 14, 2014
    how do i start a trucking company with one truck. I live in Denver, Co & I'm going to drive my own truck. thank you.
  • Trevor beginner adviser said on February 17, 2014
    Hi I am based in South Africa. I trust that this little information helps. Ensure that you have a set customer tied into a contract with set freight volumes. check to ensure that required productivity levels will be achieved for example standing times and source and destinations. very important is to ensure that you get paid the correct rate and that payment terms as satisfactory to you. Also ensure that you know what your costs are. You would have to call me should you require more than this or should you need clarity. Trevor +27828051266

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  • thabo said on February 26, 2014
    Hi! I have a registered company and willing to start a trucking business, how do i get capital and contracts, please kindly assist me, i have done all my researches all i need is start-up. Thank you
  • Vishek Singh said on March 6, 2014
    Hi Guys, I live in Durban, South Africa and currently run my own trucking business. I am looking for 3 ton loads from Durban to Richards Bay / Empangeni area or vice versa. truck runs daily on this route so please contact me if you have loads available. Good rates. Cell number: 0748899626 . Email: vishek.singh36@gmail.com. Company name: VS Logistics and Freight.
  • Meshley said on March 11, 2014
    hi. would love to get tips on starting a truck and heavy machinery business. what do i have to do first? should i buy a heavy vehicle first or apply for anything like license? please help me out with steps to follow when i wanna start this business from the start .
  • deacon cline said on March 20, 2014
    my first truck will be paid off in august I am thinking of getting my own authority but I am not sure if that is the right move or should I stay leased to a carrier for another year please advise thanks
  • sipho said on March 27, 2014
    i have got a 6 cube truck ready for construction job. i need any company that can lease or hire it

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